can you make gifs of the jaxcon gold where jensen said destiel doesn’t esixt? i know you did a post about it but maybe you could do the whole thing since better quality vids are out now? i just saw a bunch of stuff about how sam’s a “3rd-wheel” to destiel and it really upset me. if you can’t, i’ll understand. love your blog!

Did I not do that already? Oh my gosh. I guess I didn’t. I had every intention of going back and making gifs of the whole thing when the vids came out and I guess I forgot. Yes, I’ll do it. I try not to ever post wank or ship-hate on here but I do understand where you’re coming from. It gets very frustrating when you see someone diminish Sam like that. Do they not realize that there’s only one third-wheel on Supernatural and that’s an actual canon thing: 

It seems like there are a couple of things from the destiel fandom that really manage to piss off people who love the brothers and/or people who love Sam Winchester. This is #1. The other is “Jared/Sam ships it”. I honestly think that if people could stop with this nonsense, the rest of the fandom would really appreciate it and there’d be less wank. That’s just my opinion. 

Anyway, thanks for the reminder,anon. Have a great weekend. 

Also me, in Mamma Mia, if Lucifer could regenerate his face like that, why can’t he do the same when he was in Nick? I mean that’s the only reason they won’t bring Mark back is because his vessel decayed right? Ugh i do hope it gets better.

No clue. Also were Lucifer’s eyes ever red before? I don’t think so. He’s not a demon. He’s an angel. I was reading some of the responses to my last answered ask and some of them are really good. Someone said maybe Lucifer couldn’t go into the cage in a vessel this time because they didn’t have the rings to open the portal and someone else said it might be because it was so heavily warded. But as good as those answers are, I have to ask myself: are we as a fandom twisting ourselves into knots trying to come up with plausible answers to excuse the continuity and canon errors of bad writing? I think that’s very possible. It’s sad really. That doesn’t mean I don’t love this show or that I won’t continue to watch it, just that I sincerely hope the writing improves FAST. 

Here’s a thought for you: some people think Dean loves Cas as much/more than Sam. If that’s the case, why has he tried to kill himself twice in the past 4 eps when he thought Sam was dead? Beyond the obvious devotion there, think about what happens to Cas if both Sam and Dean die. There will be no one to save him. Dean knows that but i guess it doesn’t matter in the face of Sam’s death? Am I missing something here? How do people still argue Dean loves Cas as much as Sam?

That’s an excellent question. I have no idea.

that codependent shit isn’t healthy and you shouldn’t behappy about it. how can you celebrate dean trying to infect himself

Like this:

Seriously though- codependent behavior is unhealthy in real life but it’s a common device in fiction. Look at best-selling romance novels over the past 100 years and see how much of it is about people who can’t live without each other. 

Sam and Dean have been this way since the beginning. Did you start watching the show hoping they would change one of the basic components of both Sam and Dean’s characters? And now 11 years later, they’re actually somehow MORE codependent that ever?  That sounds like it must be very frustrating for you. Have a lovely day! 

No m/m ship with the main characters will be canon, not because of the fans, but because of the networks. they did not put that sort of money into the show to make it “specialized”. Not to mention Jensen has been changng scripts to mke them less gay even in subtext, and getting angry about it too. There will be gay marriage in all states before there is a canon ship like that on SPN. Oh, wait.

LOL! Exactly. The major networks are getting a little better about exploring LGBT+ issues but tptb at the CW certainly aren’t going to take a proven genre series like SPN and suddenly switch it to a show about a guy who’s almost 40 exploring his sexuality. 

wtf?? there has NEVER been a “very large chance” that d*stiel could be made canon. Never.

No, there hasn’t. Supernatural has about 1.7 million viewers each week (on average). Out of that number, only a very tiny percentage are shippers. I was talking to one of my friends the other day who loves both Supernatural and The Walking Dead. She’s been to TWD cons and now she’s going to a SPN con. I said something about destiel the other day and she said “What does that mean?” So I had a very uncomfortable discussion with her because she was honestly totally bewildered and surprised by the whole thing. I asked her what she thought they were talking about when they mentioned the ships in the episode Fan Fiction and she said that part must have gone right over her head. She has never seen anything romantic between Cas and Dean (or Sam and Dean for that matter) at all and she just didn’t get it. Those are the people that make up the silent majority of the SPN fandom. They aren’t on Tumblr, they aren’t obsessed with a ship, they don’t see the supposed subtext. They just watch the show because they like it and they like the guys. If they suddenly made that ship canon after 11 seasons, most of that group would be so confused. Think about it- there’s never been any mention of Dean being anything but straight in canon. He’s never expressed romantic feelings for Cas at all in canon and has in fact called him family and said he was like a brother to him. If you view it through the eyes of the general non-shipping audience, making the ship canon would be from so far out in left field that it could quite possibly make them stop watching. TPTB know all this. It’s not news to them. So they’ll just keep trying to make everyone happy and none of the major ships will be made canon.  That’s my thoughts on it anyway. 

(not hate) i understand the aspect of wincest in the show. but there’s also a very large chance that destiel can be made canon, but wincest can’t

I guess I will post this one since it’s the least offensive of the 5 hate anons that came into my ask box last night and this morning. And yes, it is hate. Putting “not hate” at the beginning of an ask like this doesn’t change your clear intention. You are coming onto the blog of a wincest shipper to attempt to start wank. 

Yes, after two episodes (Safe House and Red Meat) of nothing but Sam and Dean and their devotion to each other, the destiel shippers got an episode that had some good moments of Dean caring what happens to Cas. In canon, that’s just Dean refusing to ever give up on one of his closest friends and allies. That shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone- Dean would never give up on someone he considers family. But apparently getting a few good moments really brings out the worst in some people in the destiel fandom and I got 5 asks from destiel shippers (not all of whom remembered to stay on anon) saying that their ship was going to be canon or that is already is canon.

Now let me just say, I usually delete and block people who pull this stuff but that’s a high volume of nonsense being directed at me and so I’m forced to say something. 

My blog is a safe place for people who enjoy wincest and want a laugh. I don’t post hate or wank about any ship on here. Many of my friends ship destiel and I did a captions edit involving unrequited destiel awhile ago for my close friend’s birthday because that’s what she likes. The fact that you all chose to target me anyway speaks volumes about a certain branch of the destiel fandom who want to attack and provoke anyone who doesn’t ship what they do. I don’t get that.

None of the major ships on Supernatural will ever be made canon. I promise you that. The people who run the show go back and forth giving little moments that will please this group of fans or that group of fans while still making sure to keep the majority of people watching- the casual, non-shipping viewers- happy. They’ve been doing this for years now and it’s not going to change. Also, shipping isn’t really supposed to be about forcing something into canon, especially if it flat-out doesn’t fit there. It’s supposed to be about enjoying the little moments between your otp. If you’re shipping something simply because you feel like you can somehow will it to become canon, you’re doing it wrong and you’re always going to end up sad and disappointed. 

So that’s it- everyone else who sent me asks like this one (all the others were much worse- I chose this one since I thought it would be the least upsetting to followers who hate wankage) is getting blocked right now. I will not post any more asks regarding this topic either so if anyone else wants to try to pick a fight with me, you’re wasting your time. 

Now back to our regularly scheduled program of wincest captions and J2 con gifs and things that make me laugh. (Yes- I am doing captions for this episode, probably two sets of them. For anyone who was wondering.<3)